"Follow the Money"
Woodwood and Bernstien - Washington Post
of course were all so familiar with the way the society covers up it tracks and it has taken a lot of work to expose its coruption.. but are there more sinister discoveries awaiting?.
why is the society so keen to cover up peadophilia in the organisation?.
does it reach higher than we are presently aware?.
"Follow the Money"
Woodwood and Bernstien - Washington Post
for any who were former elders: suppose a sister was interested in a brother and she called the elders in his cong.
however, the brother was reproved.
if the sister knew about the reproof already, would you as an elder proceed to tell the sister about the details of the reproof?
When an Elder
If it was a public reproof - yes if the Brother was still under restrictions
If it was a private reproof no - breach of confidentiality
Now
Tell her its none of her business and "get a life"
Jim
the tragedy in oregon could be concieved by some as "pushing a man beyond all human limits" and therefore the "pusher" (ie the wtbs) is guilty.. clearly mr bryant was not in a stable state of mind - so what caused the inbalance?
clearly the action of the society.
the wtbs would counter and say it was mr bryant that caused the problem by his "black heart and rebel attitude".. so who was responsible?
The Tragedy in Oregon could be concieved by some as "pushing a man beyond all human limits" and therefore the "pusher" (ie the WTBS) is guilty.
Clearly Mr Bryant was not in a stable state of mind - so what caused the inbalance? Clearly the action of the society. The WTBS would counter and say it was Mr Bryant that caused the problem by his "black heart and rebel attitude".
So who was responsible? If it was not the WTBS, will the GB attend the funeral, pay their respects and offer comfort to the grieving relatives - or will they tell all relatives not to go to the funeral and try to hide their guilt under "theocratic procedure"
Either way it stinks. The children are guilty of nothing other than victims of the Societies policies.
Views please
Jim
the february issue of kingdom ministry in britain issues a warning to presiding overseers that they must stop auditing congregation accounts.
it advises presiding overseers that they are contravening the charities act by doing the audit.
instead service committees are now to appoint someone to do the audit.. strange things seem to be happening in britain!
Theft is a part of life - in the "truth" or out
I've been in Liverpool Cong, Bedford and now London area and in each of the congs there has been a scandal over money.
In Liverpool it was a £280 discrepancy in the Lit room, in Bedford the Accounts servant was caught "borrowing" and "irregularities" over collection and tabulation of moneys - it was only small (£250) amounts but the principle is the same.
The worst was my current cong where the accounts servant has kept a very tight hold over the books and "cash's up himself" - there is now a discrepancy of provable £3,900 errors (I think there is a lot more) but as he is the PO's son nothing has been done.
Most JW's are honest, I've found its the "favoured sons" who are the worst - and they are the "untouchables"
Jim
in jw land there is an account/gossip/talk of a great apostasy event in dublin in the late 1970s.
the society apparently had to send in an enforcer and the "dubs" were dealt with very harshly.. anybody any account/details of it?.
jim
In JW land there is an account/gossip/talk of a great apostasy event in Dublin in the late 1970s. The society apparently had to send in an enforcer and the "Dubs" were dealt with very harshly.
Anybody any account/details of it?
Jim
i was talking to my friend again and i shared the http://circuitleasing.com page with her (she says she ordered a keychain).
she was pretty disgusted by the blatant commercialism and wanted to know who owns the company?
she also mentioned the fact that the wtbts is incorporated and since neither of us is very business savvy i was wondering if any of you knows what that means.
Its because of tax, tax and tax
The major religions of the world have been going for 100's of years and enjoy all forms of Government protection and tolerance
JW's don't, they went down the unyielding, lawyer front - and also ensured their tax advatages.
Remember even the pope has a banker!!
Jim
guys and girls.
the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.
the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.
1. The guys the society brought is are very special, they know what they are doing
2.Carnivore was developed for the FBI, it is in use (all or part) by many companies
3. Its not cookies that are the problem, its identifing the source of the "web hit" - and if you click though from a "dissaffected" board to their "innocent" web site they can identify you.
4. Windows security issues are well known.
Its up to you, but we all need to be careful
Jim
here a question to trump jws.. where was the larynx located in neanderthal man if neanderthals were as capable of speech as you and i were?.
if they say that the larynx would be located in the same place as a modern human.. say`you are saying that neanderthal man was a monster with his larynx located in his chest'.. .
cf.eve spoke,pp93-94
Neanderthal Man is live, well and living in Bethel
there is a story on the news wire services to the effect that the american forces have killed some top leadership personnel in bin ladens terror network.
a contact and friend of mine that works for one of those nice 3 letter organizations said the guys were high-five-ing all over the place last night.
he said it was in fact his agency that pulled the trigger via remote control and "placed a hell-fire in the middle of the bastards".
I hope so - and hope that it was painful
Jim
guys and girls.
the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.
the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.
I too have leaked a lot of info to a known apostate - and it got published. I have also heled out Bill @ Slent lambs to back up the NBC Broadcast. Thats not the issue here
The issue is that the WTBS are trying anything to plug the leaks - and this is just one of them.
For Instance the broadcast from a cellphone of the Elders school has horrified them, by Dec of this year ALL circuit halls will have "Cellphone blockers" in them - that will stop that.
This web monitoring is just one of the measures I have alerted you to
Jim